At an intersection, the settlers get out and try to pelt our vehicle. We manage to approach a nearby Israeli border police vehicle, and the settlers turn around. But minutes after the border police headed out to search for the settlers, we were ambushed.
"The logic was immediately lost on the panel and the host. Phillip countered: People who really don't have a lot of money, here's what they're really thinking: They're not thinking, I want to buy the most expensive doll for my child..."
Podcast, I guess, is my naive attempt at trying to sketch out one part of a potential solution, or at least to have people who might be watching our stories who have no sympathy for the people we interview and view them frankly probably as stupid or extremists or dangerous, to get to a where maybe they could be empathetic.