There's a, a woman at Fox news that does so much heavy lifting. and she goes in there, and does amazing work. Jessica, yeah, she's always on with Watters and like The Five or whatever that show is called or whatever. Tarlov, Tarlov is that her name? Yeah, Jessica Tarlov. She's incredible! I think that she's incredible, I think, that she does great work. And just shout out to her for just, just, just doing the work. She just stands out to me. She's great.
Shapiro tried to do what leaders of movements do. He performed the traditional work of movement leadership: imposing boundaries, reinforcing norms, and warning about internal decay. He rejected conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk's murder. He condemned the normalization of extremist figures. He named colleagues who, in his view, were degrading the movement's credibility. In a different political ecosystem, that effort might have functioned as leadership. In this one, it revealed a mismatch between intent and environment.